Murphy Smith:

All right, everybody, we're going to go ahead and get started here. Thanks for joining us today at LVT. We're excited to have you. We appreciate the time. We know everyone is busy, and so we're just grateful that you've taken some time to be with us today. We're excited to be here with you. So just wanted to introduce our guest speakers here. We are privileged, honored to be with Chris Parker, our EDU account executive. Been here for almost four years, focusing primarily on the education space.

He has a lot of experience there. We're going to draw from that today. And then we also have on my left, Dave Baker, who comes to us with years of experience in the security industry, surveillance, cameras, technology, and so we're going to pull from his expertise as well today. You may know both of these people already. I hope that you do, but we'll get to know a little bit of them today through our conversation. So this is going to be our agenda for today.

Hopefully we'll get through all of these talking points, these areas and discussion, is current security challenges on university and college campuses, on and off. What is the state of campus security currently? What's going on? What are we using to mitigate issues, to mitigate risk, to respond to all of the myriad of potential problems that can occur on college and university campuses, and what makes those campuses uniquely challenging? We know that there are specific things that make college campuses uniquely challenging.

You guys are experiencing that, deal with that on a day-to-day. And then what does a mobile strategy look like? How does implementing an LVT unit or just mobile in general work on a college campus? What benefit does it bring? And then we're going to talk a little bit about how it's being used, LVT units are being used. I'd love for those who are attending today, feel free to chat in questions. We'll stop a couple of times and ask questions for you. Feel free to drop in the chat and we'll address them as they come in.

We'd love to hear from you as well your experience and what you guys are dealing with on a regular basis. Okay, let's dive in. Chris, as you've been talking with customers, let's discuss the elephant in the room of what we're seeing in the news right now from protests and all that kind of stuff. What are universities currently dealing with?

Chris Parker:

Yeah, Murphy. I think right now the majority of the schools that I'm having conversations with, I think they're feeling a little bit of overwhelmed. I think protests are obviously nothing new, but protests to this magnitude for this duration have become a very dynamic challenge for schools to deal with. They only have so many resources, so much time, and that's really where I've seen something like an LVT unit be something that they can plug into these scenarios and really just be a technology toolkit that they can use when needed.

Murphy Smith:

Awesome. That's great. Have you seen an influx of calls, of conversations, of questions? You mentioned that overwhelm. Are people reaching out to you from your contacts and having discussions around what they're doing and challenges?

Chris Parker:

Yes, yes, definitely. I would say the past couple of weeks, almost on a daily basis we're having universities reach out. Now, I think what really compounds it right now is that a lot of schools are also having graduation right now.

Murphy Smith:

Yeah, yeah.

Chris Parker:

So you layer in graduation with the protesting, it's just, again, a very dynamic challenge for public safety to have to deal with.

Murphy Smith:

For sure. Did you guys both walk graduation?

Chris Parker:

Yes, we did, or I did.

Murphy Smith:

That's a pretty special moment, right? And yeah, it can be tough, sensitive with protests potentially canceling or having issues with that.

Chris Parker:

Exactly. Yes.

Murphy Smith:

And there's challenges on both sides of that. It's not just the students, but the faculty, teachers, the university organization, administration. It's challenging for all parties involved. Great. I don't know about you guys, personally, what have you heard, what have you been listening to, hearing about college campus protests right now and what's the spark for you?

Dave Baker:

I think for me, a lot of times with going back to resources and time. I think it's hard enough for these staff members to make sure that they're secure with events that are planned with things that are already on the schedule, let alone dynamic things like a protest pop-up where they have to redirect resources. The problem with a lot of these areas that the protests go into, they may not have great visibility.

And so they may have planned really well to survey their campus to eliminate blind spots as much as they could, but the dynamic nature with how fast they pop up sometimes, they're just in areas where they don't have great visibility. Let alone also having resources and visibility for planned events like graduation. So I think it's just they're literally juggling where they have what they need to do every year that's already planned, but then they also have this dynamic problem of protests. It's really difficult.

Murphy Smith:

What I'm hearing is feeling overwhelmed generally with everything that's going on. I think anyone involved in universities and colleges right now are feeling that. And then from a resource perspective, you're stretched thin already because of your planned events and now you got to deal with all this dynamic changing stuff. It can be really hard.

Dave Baker:

You have people that are attending campus that are not necessarily students, and then you also have protesters that are attending campus that are not necessarily students. So it's this big mix that it can be really difficult. If you don't have good visibility, if you have a built proper perimeter around all these different designated areas, it can be really difficult to juggle.

Murphy Smith:

And we're going to hit more on that about specifically college campuses, what makes them uniquely challenging, that being one of them is they're potentially open to the public. You've got people coming and going and who's here, who's supposed to be here, who's not, all that kind of stuff can make that pretty uniquely challenging. I know as I've listened to news broadcasts and all that kind of stuff, it's really pretty incredible what's going on right now.

Potentially as a parent with a student at school, the concern... I was listening to something the other day of police force having to get to the top of a building with a megaphone talking down to be able to communicate and say, "You need to leave," and all that kind of stuff. Having to say, "Hey, hey, you, go grab a bullhorn and go up to the top of that building and let's get some organization here," that's tough.

We talk about resource constraints can be hard. Okay, cool. Now, aside from the protests, we know that's going on, Chris, what else from your experience as you've talked to universities and colleges, what are other trends that most universities are dealing with from a securities perspective? How are they?

Chris Parker:

Yeah, Murphy, I think right now a big thing for everybody that's top of mind is I'm sure folks have heard about the kids stealing Kia vehicles seems to be widespread across the United States. Now, most universities obviously will have some type of parking areas. Typically, those areas are generally off campus. A lot of times students, faculty are actually being shuttled into campus.

Oftentimes these parking lots aren't in the best areas and typically they're very vulnerable. They either have cameras out there that are antiquated and don't work, or they don't have anything out there. That's definitely a big use case. Events would be the next one that comes to mind. Obviously with the school, there's all sorts of events, from every type of athletic thing you could imagine to actually high school kids coming on campus in the summer, which presents its own set of unique challenges.

I would say following that would be construction projects. Almost every school has some type of construction going on, be it a decade long dormitory project like a lot of the universities that we're working with, be it ripping up parking lots, whatever it is. So securing those areas is definitely something that is a top priority for them.

Murphy Smith:

I can remember going to college and there was always a building under construction. There was always something going on. I can't relate at all. I was not your typical college student who had to park far away and then run to class because he was late to that. I don't relate to that at all. But yeah, I can relate that parking being off campus, that's pretty standard in a lot of locations. That can be difficult to monitor.

Dave Baker:

I think for me, I was one of those guys that had to shuttle in. We had to park at the gym that was a couple miles away, and there was no visibility on those cars. And so I think we were lucky at that point in time where we weren't having issues, but we're seeing that now where remote parking lots are heavily targeted by these bad actors.

And so a lot of times, again, it's not necessarily that you failed in your campus surveillance and designing it appropriately, it's just that it's a very dynamic issue that can change from one part of the campus to the other. And I think construction even makes it worse because construction in and of itself means that that environment is changing and so your visibility can change.

Maybe in that area landscaping made it a challenge anyway, but now that you've had to redirect traffic to an area you're completely blind in. And you may not be able to until the construction is done be able to expand or extend your surveillance infrastructure out to those areas. And so there may be areas because of the construction or because of relandscaping, whatever it might be, that you're just completely blinded right now, and that makes it even worse.

Murphy Smith:

There's just an inherent level of responsibility, of stress, of heaviness that I think the outside world doesn't see when it comes to security.

Chris Parker:

Correct.

Murphy Smith:

If I'm a student and I'm parking far away, I'm thinking, if somebody steals my car, I'm strapped enough for cash—I'm driving a beater anyways. I don't have the ability to go buy another car. There's a level of urgency, of stress, and that translates onto the security staff and teams. Everything from that to, as you can see on the screen, is there are murders on campus. I know we were just discussing this the other day. Tell me about that a little bit.

Chris Parker:

One of the schools we work with has captured, I believe, actually two different homicides on an LVT trailer, which is really surprising if you think about it, because basically it happened in plain sight of the unit. Very crazy things that we're actually seeing on the cameras that you definitely wouldn't expect. And going back to the parking situations as well, one thing I was thinking about is that a lot of students, we've all been there, aren't locking the vehicles.

They're leaving laptops, book bags, things that are just easy for somebody to very quickly get into a vehicle and steal. And that's what a lot of these schools are actually seeing is that it's groups of people. Someone will park a car as the getaway mobile and a couple guys will go in, break into as many cars as they can, and they run and jump into that vehicle as fast as they can and get out of there.

Murphy Smith:

That's it.

Dave Baker:

We've seen that across not just university, we've seen it in multiple verticals. One of the things that we know is that the presence of a mobile security unit can help with that deterrence, where if these bad actors do come and they see that, although they may still break in because we obviously can't deny it with the trailer, we're still gathering evidence, which is important after the fact for investigations.

But then there's a lot of people that move on to other parts of the campus because they don't know what that trailer is doing. They don't know what the cameras are doing, and so we want them to move on basically. So I think the LVT can really help with that low-hanging fruit scenario of crime or the opportunistic aspect of crime or being targeted. But then there's also another with the protests where it's heavily targeted, there's specific spots they want to go to that you need to respond, LVT can help with that as well too, where we can target and have a specific purpose for a trailer.

There's benefit across campus, whether it's those remote parking lots where we need to survey, gather as much evidence as possible so that we can even after the fact if there are bad actors do investigations, but then also the areas that are targeted by these protests, we can respond really quickly to there, get you eyes and, again, help out with evidence.

Murphy Smith:

Awesome. Forensic video evidence becomes super important on both sides of the coin. For students, for protesters, evidence for them being treated fairly and safely and all that kind of stuff. And for local law enforcement for evidence for them on what's actually happening.

For universities, all that kind of stuff becomes really important if you don't have eyes on, that could be pretty difficult. You're relying on some cell phone videos potentially. What are you typically seeing, Chris, would you say? How much of the planned crime versus crime of opportunity are you hearing from universities and colleges?

Chris Parker:

It seems to be more opportunistic, I would say. And a lot of schools obviously aren't in the best areas. Some of them are in the middle of cities that have surrounding areas that are not great. So typically the big challenge with these schools is that folks are coming onto the campus that are not affiliated with the university in any way.

They're doing these crimes, and then they're very quickly getting off campus. So it's a real challenge and it's a very difficult thing to try to attack. And then you layer in something like these protests, these guys are smart. They know, hey, all of the university's resources right now are around this protest, so this is the best time to go after these vehicles because nobody's going to come. Their priorities are different right now.

Murphy Smith:

Yeah, interesting. So I may not be involved in the protest at all, but I'm thinking this is an opportune for me, advantage to go and do something I shouldn't. For those who are on the call, feel free to chat in is, what are you typically seeing on your university and colleges campuses? Are you seeing more planned crime, planned events versus opportunistic crime happening on your campuses? And then again here as well, feel free to chat in. These are some of the things that we've heard.

We've mentioned a number of these, but these parking garages, parking facility locations being able to rapidly deploy a solution, for special events, construction. Anything we've missed on this, please feel free to chat in. We'd love to address anything that you have that we haven't listed here or discussed that you're currently seeing on a regular basis. We know that you guys are on the front lines dealing with this kind of stuff, so feel free to chat in. And as those come in, we'll address them.

The next thing we wanted to talk about outside of the current trends in crime, in issues that universities are dealing with is what's the state of security on campuses? What's being used? Both from a technology and a personnel standpoint, what's being used? What are you seeing that currently is used on campuses?

Chris Parker:

I think right now a lot of schools are evolving the technology. There's a lot of avenues that they can take right now outside of fixed cameras on buildings, obviously mobile security trailers being one of those. A lot of universities are actually starting to look at drones and counter to that is drone detection technology. So there's a lot of things that they're starting to layer in, at least from what I've seen.

Murphy Smith:

Interesting.

Dave Baker:

We're also seeing a lot of consolidation of security platforms where security has been heavily siloed, especially in the video front, where drones had their own video, body cam had their own video, and then surveillance had there's, and you're seeing a lot of consolidation of those types of silos. And then systems in general are much more composable with each other.

They interact with each other a lot more. And then just a lot more cameras, a lot more coverage. Usually a university in a robust surveillance program, your whole goal is to eliminate blind spots. Campus wide, typically you're doing that very well. Now you're starting to get better cameras to handle light better in different situations. You're starting to see more application-specific cameras around license plate recognition.

You may even have some facial recognition applications, depending on what area of the campus it's at. And then on top of that, you have intercom systems that are able to do more efficient user management from a security perspective. So all those things are coming in typically to head ends that that can interact with other platforms. So that continues to evolve.

Murphy Smith:

Cool. Interesting. We've got a question or a comment in the chat here. Referring back to some of the issues that we're seeing on campuses, and I think this one, I can't believe we missed this one, this is a harassment and stalking, assault on college campuses. I don't know about you guys, I've heard this my whole life is college campus harassment, stalking, and assault in areas.

And I was having a conversation with my wife the other day and she said to me, "You don't even think, it doesn't even cross your mind about going out for a run alone at night whether it's safe or not. For you, it doesn't cross your mind. It's not something you think about." And it was interesting that I thought she's right. I'm not like, oh gosh, I should probably bring pepper spray, or should I go out now?

For her though, it's almost a constant thought of, okay, I'm going here. Am I alone? Where can I go? That is I think something that's pretty significant. And if you have an area that's dark, a pathway off campus, something like that, that you don't have great visibility in and you have had some assaults there over time, is being able to drop a big bright unit in one of those areas, I think, is potentially a big positive response I would say.

Dave Baker:

Yeah, it's funny, I worked with a university a long time ago in the early days of my career that had a big beautiful hill that a lot of students during the day would study on. Big, huge trees, beautiful grass, beautiful landscaping. But at night it was really dangerous because they had no visibility because of all the trees.

So it's always a balance between landscaping, beauty, but I think the number one thing is that it not only puts pressure all these bad actors, it puts pressure on camera coverage, but it also puts pressure on lighting. And at night when you're on campus, it's beautiful. You're absolutely right, you shouldn't have to think about these things, but you need to be in areas that are well lit. A university has to have great lighting in those areas.

Murphy Smith:

We talk a lot about this, from Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design. CPTED is the discipline. CPTED is if I'm a criminal, I'm thinking, can I see and can I be seen? It's a huge part. I mean, one of the simplest ways to deter is just lighting. The more lighting you can get in areas, the less people think, well, that's pretty dark over there. I'm going to go over there and do something nefarious. If I can just add lighting, as simple as that, you'll see some deterrence in crime.

Dave Baker:

Absolutely.

Murphy Smith:

That's really interesting. So I got a question here, a follow-up question was, what are options for safety measures that can be on your person? Any thoughts from you guys?

Dave Baker:

I mean, body-worn is starting to be a little bit more available to the general public. You have a couple of manufacturers who are coming out with that. LVT has not journeyed into that space, but we know a couple of vendors that are starting to add body-worn cameras for education, for retail, different options.

That is the future. I think a lot more people will have body-worn. As of right now, I think your cell phone is a great resource for something along those lines, although it's not the best answer.

Chris Parker:

I would echo that and say a lot of the schools that we're working with, their officers and public safety folks are always wearing body cams, especially when going out on calls.

Murphy Smith:

And just for those who are on the chat, just make sure you're using the Q&A section and not the chat function to put in here. Just FYI on that. We did have another question from somebody. Along with the pro-Palestinian protests, that we've also seen concern within the Jewish community in response to those. We've been able to deploy one of our LVT units to campus ministries areas, which seems to reduce some of the stress of those community members just by the mere presence of the unit.

This brings up an interesting point. There's a lot of quantitative data that we can gather, and it is just as important is the qualitative, from people is I just feel safer with this thing around. I know we hear this regularly. I go and I park my car under the LVT unit because it makes me feel safer. I know someone's watching it. We get that a lot.

Chris Parker:

I think a lot of this ties into the perception of safety as well, because the feedback that at least I've received from schools is that, hey, when parents come to visit their kids, they notice the trailers. They don't notice the fixed camera on the side of the building, but they sure as heck notice an LVT trailer sitting there and they comment on it and they say, "Hey, this is great. We like seeing this, and it makes people feel safe."

Dave Baker:

And going back to the CPTED, the perception of surveillance is more powerful than its reality. I absolutely believe that, and it works both ways, not only for bad actors and for them to evaluate risk and think, oh, I should probably go somewhere else, but it also helps good actors.

Because at the very least, at the very elementary level, you have evidence on what happened. So it's not just your story, you actually have video evidence that somebody hurt you, somebody broke into your car. And those trailers are recording 24/7, and we're able to provide vantage points and views that you can't get normally with these protests.

Murphy Smith:

Interesting. Awesome. And then obviously, we've got cameras, guards, police forces, aside from including the technology, we've got a lot of personnel I know that are working to make these college campuses and universities more secure. And it's nice. One of the benefits of having an LVT unit is like you said with the protesters, I can see and then deploy. I've got a unit out and I can see what's going on and then manage my actual human force more effectively and efficiently.

Dave Baker:

Well, not only that, if the protest moves to another area in campus, you can move the unit with it. So it's semi-permanent, meaning that we can put it up for long-term, but we can also take it down really quickly and move it if we need to. The benefit of using a mobile surveillance unit in these environments is that you have two requirements: cellular and sunlight. And outside of those two requirements, we can provide evidence, we can provide analytics and intelligence in those areas anywhere.

Murphy Smith:

Yeah, that's awesome. All right, when it comes to college campuses being unique in a security environment, from a safety standpoint, what is it that makes college campuses uniquely challenging? And we've noted on this a couple of times, but anything else from your thoughts on what makes universities uniquely challenging to secure?

And for those on the call as well, attendees, please chat in there or use the Q&A function on there, tell us what's uniquely challenging about your college campuses that make it hard to secure and for surveillance.

Dave Baker:

I think the first one for me is your entry and exit points. A lot of colleges have locked this down through the years in an effort to try to funnel some of that traffic. But there's a lot that haven't and they still have multiple entry and exit points that are just really difficult to cover.

And so there's a lot of spots that bad actors can come in and really limit the amount of evidence that they have on those bad actors. So that's a big one for me is just covering the amount of entry points for some of these community colleges or junior colleges, let alone the big universities.

Murphy Smith:

Totally. I mean, Chris, you were saying the other day, one of the universities you're working with, how many cameras do they have?

Chris Parker:

Close to 6,000, which is a lot. It's one of the more impressive command centers that I've seen. But even with them, they still have blind spots. They still have areas that are privately owned that they can't put cameras on. So they'll just go plug a trailer into that area and it gives them coverage.

Murphy Smith:

I can't imagine having the responsibility to try and have eyes on a college campus. When I went to college, it was like I could enter and exit a college campus anywhere, because college campuses are designed for traffic flow or for often aesthetics. It's beautiful. It looks great. I'm not necessarily thinking about that I got a confine entry and exit points to just here and just there. That open concept applies on college campus design. I mean, it's a beast to try and figure that out.

Dave Baker:

It's a tight tightrope to walk because you want to have the campus be open to the public because it is public property a lot of times, or publicly funded I should say. So you want them to feel like they can come in and take advantage of a duck pond or something along those lines. So you have to keep it somewhat safe, but then you also have to maintain visibility in these areas in order to make sure everybody is safe and secure.

Murphy Smith:

I mean, what does it look like to get wired surveillance out to a duck pond? What has to happen from that?

Dave Baker:

I mean, I think the first two things is data and power. And that sounds easy, but it's very difficult to extend out. So I think one of the benefits of an MSU strategy or mobile security strategy is the fact that it takes time to extend out data infrastructure, let alone power infrastructure. So a mobile security unit could help you short-term until you're able to extend out long-term to move your cabling out to where it needs to go or have a pole or some type of an infrastructure to mount to to give visibility in these areas.

So an MSU can be like a stopgap at the very least. You have projects, you have funding to extend out our data and our power to mount a camera out there, but you're not there yet, maybe you have six months before that project is complete, an MSU unit can fill that gap for you momentarily.

Murphy Smith:

Fortunately, it's so inexpensive to get power and data out to remote locations.

Dave Baker:

It's very inexpensive.

Murphy Smith:

It just doesn't cost much at all. Okay, great. Again, for anybody else in the chat, what makes your campus uniquely challenging to cover and to secure? Feel free to put that in the chat there. We've got campus owned property that may not be directly adjacent to the main campus. Campus owns it, but it's not near the campus. I got to get something way out there. Do I install cameras way out there and how am I getting access to that data then back at my SOC or something like that?

Dave Baker:

One of the most difficult spots I've covered was actually a junkyard. This particular college would pull in old vehicles and they would use it as a scrap, but they had this big open area that you could potentially climb up and go into campus through. They didn't always have vehicles in the same spot, so the environment changed.

So at one point in time, they would've a big school bus that would be blocking the camera having an overlay of the area. So it was difficult because not only they didn't have infrastructure out to the far points of this junkyard, but also the junkyard changed. So it was really difficult to survey. Even the camera that they had dedicated to being over everything was oftentimes blocked.

Murphy Smith:

So you could have situations like that where maybe it's a vocational school where they have a lot of different vehicles they're working on or different equipment, whatever it could be where it's a very dynamic spot, very difficult for surveillance cameras in the middle of that. I know I've heard you say before that trying to use a static solution to solve a dynamic problem. I got a camera that's put on a building and that's where it's going to stay.

I'm sure you've had that conversation a million times with campuses. All right, so if I'm a campus, for either of you, I want our guests to be able to walk away with something they can think about from a strategy perspective. You're in charge of security on your campus. What does a strategy using a mobile solution look like? How are you implementing it? What are you doing as part of your security strategy?

Dave Baker:

You want me to go first?

Chris Parker:

You can go first.

Dave Baker:

So I think for me, the takeaway that I would want any security staff to come away with on this is LVT is a tool for you. It can be on your tool belt. You can use it for a number of different situations and use it quickly. We can respond very quickly with a surveillance unit to get you eyes on those areas where either it's a dynamic situation like we were talking about, it's somewhere where you just don't have infrastructure, or whatever it may be.

We can get a unit out there quickly. We're not in competition with your existing system. And eventually, hopefully, we'll be able to play in conjunction with those systems. But as of today, we want to respond quickly. We can be a tool in your belt and a surveillance and intelligence quickly.

Murphy Smith:

Awesome. I'm putting these anywhere. I need visibility in real time right now. Awesome.

Chris Parker:

You stole my thunder there.

Dave Baker:

Sorry. Apologize.

Murphy Smith:

When I think about a college campus, because we work with all kinds of different verticals and industries, and specifically from a retail perspective potentially is, how am I measuring risk and do I have certain locations that are higher risk than others? As I'm thinking about my overall LVT rollout or a strategy of surveillance, I'm curious if anybody looks at their campus a bit like different areas, regions, locations, and have that campus divided up in terms of high risk, low risk for certain situations.

And depending on what I have there currently is an area high risk just based on lighting or based on previous incidents or based on what I actually have deployed there or not deployed there. Curious, if we sliced up a university campus like that and then be able to deploy a unit in my high risk areas until we can, like you mentioned, get it more secure and then take it to my next high risk area.

Chris Parker:

We've actually seen this with quite a few schools, particularly in parking areas where they'll say, "Hey, over the past six months we've had three or four vehicles stolen. We've had vehicles broken into sometimes on a weekly basis. We've tested this where we'll put a unit actually in that parking lot. Basically overnight solves the problems." It'll be a couple months where they won't have something happen. As soon as they move the unit, the next day something happens. Somebody comes and breaks into the vehicle or steals the vehicle.

Murphy Smith:

How else are organizations that you work with using LVT units? What are some other use cases you can think of, Chris?

Chris Parker:

I would say sporting events is another big one that we really haven't touched on. A lot of the schools that we work with obviously have big football programs, putting these around stadiums, especially for areas where people are tailgating. We see this quite a bit where they're using this and they say, "Hey, this is our main tailgating area. This is where we have people flying drones. This is where we have people getting into fights."

So I've actually been with a couple schools for tailgating events. One of the times they actually had somebody fly a drone over the football stadium, stop the game basically. This is on live national television. They were actually able to use the LVT unit to find the guy that was in the crowd flying the drone, which was pretty cool. It's not something you would expect. With the fights, I mean, obviously college kids are college kids.

Murphy Smith:

No, come on. There's no fights on college campuses. Give me a break.

Chris Parker:

It seems like almost every football game they're using LVT trailers to zoom in on folks, take a picture of them. They send that photo to the guys that are out on patrol. Hey, check it out. Here's the young kids that just got into a fight. So that's definitely a big one that comes to mind. I think athletics is something that we haven't touched on.

Murphy Smith:

For sure.

Dave Baker:

I think along those same lines too, like the audio portion of the trailer where you can have a time loop, maybe it's announcement for crowd control, tell them what direction the crowd needs to go to get into the stadium. Or even if there's a rain or lightning, we could send out an alarm that would blast that out. I've seen that application on parking, but then also the ability to respond automatically.

So if somebody does go in a restricted area that they shouldn't be, the unit can scream at them. But then the third thing that I think is also beneficial if we have somebody live monitoring the LVT units, you can respond live and tell someone, "Hey, that's the wrong way. Please go around the other way." There's an audio component here for crowd control and for events as well.

Chris Parker:

I think along the audio lines as well, a lot of schools that have issues with homeless, they found it very effective to actually place a unit in and around the homeless encampments and they will play oftentimes classical music overnight. And it tends to be kind of a citronella for homeless folks. They hate it. They go somewhere else. That's a very niche use case, but we do have schools that are actually using it for that.

Murphy Smith:

Interesting. That's the homeless issue on house is a unique challenge.

Chris Parker:

A whole other unique challenge.

Murphy Smith:

The empathy side, trying to fix the problem rather than just push it off. But at the same time, the volatility. You're not really sure what can happen. There's so much there. Aside from then potentially the cleanup of waste and all that kind of stuff can become real pricey and potentially dangerous and all that. That's a big one, and we see that across all industries that we work with, not just schools.

We've talked about some of this, again, in some of the stories we've heard here today. A mobile solution works, as you mentioned. It's just a tool on the tool belt that allows you to get eyes on, verbal, automated messaging, all kinds of things at a moment's notice. There's just so much flexibility that it can provide. We'd love just to close up our time here today, everybody, with just a Q&A.

Are there any questions that you have that we haven't addressed that you'd like us to address? We'll just look at the chat here, but feel free to type in there anything that you have. We'll leave this open for a couple of minutes. Feel free to chat in there and we'd love to hear from you if you have additional questions or concerns. While you're potentially typing that, we've got some other information on the slide here that you can grab.

There's a QR code you can grab there to sign up for a demo. If you're not currently using an LVT unit or a mobile solution, we'd love to come out and pilot it with you. You can see how it works, get in, experiment with it, move it around without any expense to you. And then we have these well-versed individuals here, experts in this space that can help. Their email addresses are on here as well.

Again, it's Dave Baker on my left and Chris Parker on my right. So feel free to reach out to them. You've got their information here. I'm not seeing anything in the chat. So again, we're so grateful for your time today. We know you're busy. This means a lot to us that you'd spend some of your busy time with us. We hope you have a wonderful and safe rest of your day and weekend. Take care. Thanks for being with us.